JFK DID NOT ORDER THE KENNEDY DETAIL OFF HIS CAR-HERE IS THE PROOF

Secret Service, JFK, President Kennedy, James Rowley, Gerald Behn, Floyd Boring, Roy Kellerman, John Campion, William Greer, Forest Sorrels, Clint Hill, Winston Lawson, Emory Roberts, Sam Kinney, Paul Landis, John "Jack" Ready, William "Tim" McIntyre, Glenn Bennett, George Hickey, Rufus Youngblood, Warren "Woody" Taylor, Jerry Kivett, Lem Johns, John "Muggsy" O'Leary, Sam Sulliman, Ernest Olsson, Robert Steuart, Richard Johnsen, Stewart "Stu" Stout, Roger Warner, Henry "Hank" Rybka, Donald Lawton, Dennis Halterman, Walt Coughlin, Andy Berger, Ron Pontius, Bert de Freese, Jim Goodenough, Bill Duncan, Ned Hall II, Mike Howard, Art Godfrey, Gerald Blaine, Ken Giannoules, Paul Burns, Gerald O'Rourke, Robert Faison, David Grant, John Joe Howlett, Bill Payne, Robert Burke, Frank Yeager, Donald Bendickson, Gerald Bechtle, Howard Norton, Hamilton Brown, Toby Chandler, Chuck Zboril, Joe Paolella, Wade Rodham, Bob Foster, Lynn Meredith, Rad Jones, Thomas Wells, Charlie Kunkel, Stu Knight, Paul Rundle, Glen Weaver, Arnie Lau, Forrest Guthrie, Eve Dempsher, Bob Lilley, Ken Wiesman, Mike Mastrovito, Tony Sherman, Larry Newman, Morgan Gies, Tom Shipman, Ed Tucker, Harvey Henderson, Abe Bolden, Robert Kollar, Ed Mougin, Mac Sweazey, Horace "Harry" Gibbs, Tom Behl, Jim Cantrell, Bill Straughn, Tom Fridley, Mike Kelly, Joe Noonan, Gayle Dobish, Earl Moore, Arthur Blake, John Lardner, Milt Wilhite, Bill Skiles, Louis Mayo, Thomas Wooge, Milt Scheuerman, Talmadge Bailey, Bob Lapham, Bob Newbrand, Bernie Mullady, Jerry Dolan, Vince Mroz, William Bacherman, Howard Anderson, U.E. Baughman, Walt Blaschak, Robert Bouck, George Chaney, William Davis, Paul Doster, Dick Flohr, Jack Fox, John Giuffre, Jim Griffith, Jack Holtzhauer, Andy Hutch, Jim Jeffries, John Paul Jones, Kent Jordan, Dale Keaner, Brooks Keller, Thomas Kelley, Clarence Knetsch, Jackson Krill, Elmer Lawrence, Bill Livingood, J. Leroy Lewis, Dick Metzinger, Jerry McCann, John McCarthy, Ed Morey, Chester Miller, Roy "Gene" Nunn, Jack Parker, Paul Paterni, Burrill Peterson, Max Phillips, Walter Pine, Michael Shannon, Frank Stoner, Cecil Taylor, Charles Taylor, Bob Taylor, Elliot Thacker, Ken Thompson, Mike Torina, Jack Walsh, Jack Warner, Thomas White, Ed Wildy, Carroll Winslow, Dale Wunderlich, Walter Young, Winston Gintz, Bill Carter, C. Douglas Dillon, James Johnson, Larry Hess, Frank Farnsworth, Jim Giovanneti,Bob Gaugh,Don Brett, Jack Gleason, Bob Jamison, Gary Seale, Bill Sherlock, Bob Till, Doc Walters...President Kennedy was a very nice man and never interfered with the Secret Service! My name is Vince Palamara, Secret Service expert (as noted on The History Channel and in many books), and I base this on numerous interviews and correspondence with former JFK era agents from 1991-2009, as well as many years of research through files, films, photos, and other documentary evidence (my research materials are stored, by request under Deed of Gift from the U.S. Government, in the National Archives, as well as at the JFK Library. My work is duly noted in the U.S. Government's official report given to President Clinton, as well as to a host of other luminaries and the media, in 1998: "The Final Report of the Assassination Records Review Board"). My book is entitled "Survivor's Guilt: The Secret Service and the Failure to Protect the President" (1993/2006)

Thursday, October 21, 2010

The DARK side of the Kennedy Detail II

Agent Gerald W. O'Rourke
        Agent Jerry O’Rourke was part of the shift consisting of ATSAIC Arthur L. Godfrey-shift leader, SA Gerald S. Blaine, SA Kenneth S. Giannoules, SA Paul A. Burns, and  SA Robert R. Faison. This group of men arrived in Fort Worth from Washington, D.C. at 2:15 p.m. on 11/21/63 for duty at the Hotel Texas as part of the 4p.m.-12 min shift (JFK arrived 11:50 p.m., ten minutes until midnight). After having helped protect the President during the morning of 11/22/63 in Fort Worth (as part of the 12 Midnight to 8 a.m. shift), this coterie of agents proceeded on to Austin for JFK’s proposed stop after his Dallas trip. Sources-RIF#1541000110104; 1541000110064; 1541000110057; 1541000110050;
1541000110044; 1541000110033; 18 H 779; Air Force One radio tapes/ transcripts; Bill Moyers' interview on A&E 1992; "Death of a President", p.317
  Blaine went on to become a member of the Overseas Security Advisory Council---OSAC---for the U.S. Department of State, in his capacity as the OSAC Private Sector Representative representing the IBM Corporation and, later, as the Director of International Security for the ARCO International Oil and Gas Company. O’Rourke waited nearly 40 years to break his silence---it was worth the wait “Ex-agent refuses to toe party line on JFK slaying” By Ellen Miller, Special To The News November 20, 2003. RockyMountainNews.Com
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/article/0,1299,DRMN_21_2442956,00.html

: “Lee Harvey Oswald didn't act alone when he killed President John F. Kennedy, a retired agent said Wednesday, and the president died because Secret Service agents failed at their jobs. "Officially, the answer to Oswald when somebody asks – because we were ordered to say it - is that the Warren Commission found that he acted alone," retired agent Jerry O'Rourke said. "But was there more than one gunman? Yes, personally I believe so. And my personal opinion about Jack Ruby is that he was paid to kill Oswald." O'Rourke grew up in Telluride and attended Western State and Regis colleges, then spent 22 years in the Secret Service. Now retired and back home, he spoke Wednesday to the downtown Grand Junction Rotary Club. O'Rourke said his group of agents, about 10 of them, had protected Kennedy the morning of Nov. 22, 1963, at a breakfast speech in Fort Worth. Then the group left by air for Austin, the next stop planned for the president's Texas tour.
        "We got the word (of the assassination) in the air, and we didn't believe it at first," he said. "We were joking. But later, most of the agents had tears in their eyes. Agents believed in Kennedy, and we knew we failed our job in Dallas.” After his White House tour ended during Johnson's presidency, O'Rourke spent a year in the Secret Service intelligence division, which offered him glimpses into the investigation of Kennedy's death.
        Those glimpses, and the accounts of other agents, have convinced O'Rourke that Oswald didn't act  alone. He cited several reasons:
        Kennedy had a number of enemies, any of whom could have plotted against him. They included Southerners angered by his insistence on civil rights; organized crime; labor unions unhappy with investigations of them by Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy; Cuban dissidents angry over the failed Bay of Pigs invasion; and FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover.
        The shots were impossible to make. O'Rourke learned to shoot as a boy and trained as a marksman in the military. He said his visits to Oswald's perch at the Texas Book Depository convince him that no one could have fired a rifle three times so quickly, hitting the president and Texas Gov. John Connally.
         The trajectory of one of the shots could not have been made from a gunman on the sixth floor of the Texas Book Depository. The shot entered Kennedy's body at his lower back and traveled up, to exit near his throat.
        The circumstances of the autopsy were irregular. Texas law requires autopsies to be done in state, but agents, acting on the orders of White House, took Kennedy's body back to Washington, D.C. The autopsy was performed at Bethesda Naval Medical Center under secrecy that prevails to this day.
        Evidence was destroyed. O'Rourke said that on the day of the assassination, one agent was ordered to clean out the cars used in the motorcade, getting rid of blood and other evidence. The agent told O'Rourke that he found a piece of skull, asked the White House doctor what to do with it, and was told to destroy it.
        Instructions were given to lie. The agent in charge of motorcade protection [presumably Kellerman] told O'Rourke that he was told by the Warren Commission during his testimony that he did not hear a fourth shot and he did not see someone running across the grassy knoll. But the agent insisted that his account was accurate.
        Evidence about the shots is in conflict. An open microphone on a motorcycle in the motorcade picked up four shots, not three.
        "In my opinion, Hoover wanted the commission to find that Oswald acted alone," O'Rourke said. "The complete file won't be released until 2027, and the reason for that is most of us will be dead by then [emphasis added]." (Gerald Blaine wrote the author on 6/12/05: “I did not hear Jerry O'rourke's comments, but I cannot even imagine an agent who went through the whole thing expressing a conspiracy theory, but everyone is entitled to their own thoughts. My study and evaluation over the years, based upon the threat scenario's we had to deal with pointed to Oswald's acting alone”)
        O’Rourke wrote the author: “"Did President Kennedy order us (agents) off the steps of the limo? To my knowledge President Kennedy never ordered us to leave the limo...President Kennedy was easy to protect as he completely trusted the agents of the Secret Service. We always had to be entirely honest with him and up front so we did not lose his trust...The bubble top was plastic and wasn't even bullet resistant but it is possible it could have deflected the bullet if the bullet was not coming straight on." Letter to author dated 1/15/04
 However, O’Rourke would not respond to a second letter from the author and did not wish to speak further about the matters at hand when contacted by phone on 2/11/04.
        That said, O’Rourke did consent to corresponding with the author via e-mail on 6/17/05 and 6/18/05---the former agent wrote: “Keep in mind, some of the former agents you interview are not going to be receptive to you. Most don’t mind talking about the assassination but they still are very protective. Also, many continue to have some problems (mental?) dealing with what they feel as a failure on their part…Some of the retired agents have contested my beliefs on the assassination but most of those agents were still in diapers when 11/22/63 [the assassination] came about. I always answer them by stating, ‘I was there, were you?’ Some of those guys you interviewed are great guys while the others are…[ O’Rourke ended this comment in this fashion].” O’Rourke added: “As I told you [,] a couple agents have problems with the assassination, Clint [Hill] being one. He is a good friend of mine but I have not seen him in 25 years…Yes, Clint still has problems with 11/22/63…Again, there are a lot of “people” (and agents) that disagree with my findings [regarding] Nov. 22nd but they have not done any research…I have visited with several of the agents that were right with JFK, at the time, and plied them with drink [!] When all of the records are completely released [,] we will know [what happened], if [we are] still alive.”
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Agent Thomas B. Shipman (White House Garage Detail, DIED BEFORE THE DALLAS TRIP) [include video]
A Major discovery by the author was made when perusing a passage buried in Col. George J. McNally's Page 211. Col. George J. McNally was the first commanding officer of the White House Army Signal Agency, and its successor, the White House Communications Agency (WHCA) from 1941 until his retirement in 1965. Before that, McNally was an agent of the United States Secret Service (1935-1941). McNally was in the midst of finishing a book when he died of a heart attack on 8/11/70 (he is interred in Arlington National Cemetery). The name of McNally's book, not released until 1982 (with the help of his widow and the 1600 Communications Assoc.), is "A Million Miles of Presidents. “Among countless other trips (Truman-Johnson), McNally was on the Texas trip, working closely with Chief Warrant Officer Arthur W. Bales, Jr.and Ira Gearhart, a.k.a. The Bagman (these two men rode near the end of the motorcade in the White House Signal Corps car.) For his part, McNally stayed behind at the Love Field terminal to have lunch and to check on the upcoming Austin part of the trip to see if the communication lines were working. [McNally was interviewed 4 times for Manchester's "The Death of a President" and appears on one page of Bishop's "The Day Kennedy Was Shot." In addition, McNally's name appears several times during agent Robert Bouck's JFK Library Oral History, as McNally played a critical role in the White House taping system. Finally, McNally was one of the original members of founder Floyd Boring's Association of Former Agents of the United States Secret Service in 1969]
 very obscure and non-indexed book entitled "A Million Miles of Presidents"---the relevant passage reads:  "One of the President's drivers, Tom Shipman, died suddenly."
In the chronology of McNally's narrative, after discussing the death of baby Patrick Kennedy (Aug. 1963) and the 11-state "Conservation Tour"(late September 1963), this would seem to indicate a time period of around Sept. 1963 for Shipman's death (McNally also mentions the death of Administrative Officer Frank Sanderson who died in May 1963, as verified by an internet search at Ancestry.Com and at other sites. Strangely, no death for a "Tom" or "Thomas" Shipman is listed for 1963.) However---Secret Service SA Tom Shipman was on the "Conservation Tour," as Office -of-the- Naval- Aide records for this trip reveal. In fact, Shipman rode on Helicopter #2 from the South Lawn of the White House on the way to Andrews Air Force Base on 9/24/63 with Ken O'Donnell, SA Gerald Blaine, SA Paul Burns, and SA William Greer. Also, Shipman is listed in the Protective Survey Report (written 9/20/63) for the 9/24/63 Milford, PA stop. RIF#180-10089-10262
 Previously, Shipman had been on JFK's 3/23/63 trip to Chicago, IL, driving the follow-up car. RIF#154-10003-10012
 Sam Kinney told the author: “[fellow agent/ driver] Deeter B. [Flohr, Ike’s driver] and I were buddies-traveled a lot together; Tom Shipman, Deeter B., and myself.” Author’s interview with Kinney, 4/15/94
 Former agent Darwin Horn wrote: “Shipman was a driver for many years with Dick Flore [sic] and Morgan Gies.” E-mail to author dated 2/25/04

If that wasn't enough, it appears that there were two new additions to the regular White House Garage (chauffeur) detail in Oct./ Nov. 1963, in addition to veterans SA Samuel A. Kinney, SA George W. Hickey, SA William R. Greer, Special Officer (SO/ Uniformed Division) William C. Davis, WH Policeman James M. Carter, and SAIC Morgan L. Gies: SA Henry J. Rybka Rybka was a Special Officer and member of JFK’s Inaugural Detail: Protective Survey Report dated 1/16/61 Re: Inaugural Activities of the President on January 20, 1961, conducted by SAIC James M. Beary (1-15 [Washington Field Office]) and SA H.S. Knight (1-16 [WHD])
 (attending Treasury School from 11/1/63 to 11/8/63 and who would go on to be recalled by Agent Roberts at Love Field) and SA Andrew M. Hutch (who doesn't join the detail until 11/18/63, having previously been a White House Policeman). Secret Service Shift Reports for November 1963, inc. 11/1/ 63:RIF# 1541000110180; 11//2/63: RIF#1541000110173; 11/3/63:RIF#1541000110167; 11/4/63: RIF# 1541000110160; 11/5/63: RIF# 1541000110153; 11/6/63: RIF# 1541000110146; 11/7/63: RIF# 1541000110139; 11/8/63: RIF#1541000110132; 11/18/63: RIF#1541000110062; 11/22/63: RIF# 1541000110034

From the record, then, it appears Shipman died suddenly sometime between October 3 and November 1 1963. It would be nice to have the travel logs for this time period, but, as previously noted, the Secret Service destroyed them in January 1995:
Once again, from the Final Report of the Assassination Records Review Board---"However, in January 1995, the Secret Service destroyed presidential protection survey reports for some of President Kennedy's trips in the fall of 1963. The Review Board learned of the destruction approximately one week after the Secret Service destroyed them, when the Board was drafting its request for additional information. The Board believed that the Secret Service files on the President's travel in the weeks preceding his murder would be relevant." Page 149.

WHY the destruction? WHERE is Shipman's death certificate?
SA Tom Shipman died in late 1963, before the Texas trip. This was the extent of the author’s knowledge from 1997, the time of discovery, until 1999, when the author came across an online website dedicated to fallen officers that listed Shipman’s middle initial Not long after the author’s discovery, the website could no longer be accessed. As of 12/1/03, this website, by the Federal Law Enforcement Foundation, has Shipman and others listed:
http://www.federallawenforcement.com/fallenssa.htm

 and, most importantly, on 7/26/01, when the following information was discovered by the author, once again via the internet:         THE ASSOCIATION OF FORMER AGENTS OF THE SECRET SERVICE'S website http://www.oldstar.org/In_Memoriam.html

Here is another great source of information online: http://www.aorp.org/deceasedsort.html
 lists 34 agents that passed away in the line of duty---out of literally thousands of men and women---since the late nineteenth century. The ONLY JFK-era agent listed is White House Garage/ Chauffeur Special Agent THOMAS B. SHIPMAN: "October 14, 1963: Died of a heart attack while on a presidential protective assignment at Camp David, Maryland."
Because of Shipman's death, Bill Greer drove JFK in Dallas and his immediate replacement, Henry J. Rybka  (fresh from Treasury School) was recalled at Love Field by Roberts! Former agent Gerald Blaine told the author that Kinney, Shipman, and Greer were “the three consistent ones” that drove JFK’s car (commenting that Greer “usually” did), also adding that Shipman and Kinney drove the follow-up car, as well. Author’s interview with Blaine, 2/7/04
 Winston Lawson wrote the author: “Tom Shipman, also a driver, died of a heart attack while up at Camp David, prior to retirement. I don’t know the year and couldn’t find out. I believe Sam Kinney found his body. They would have roomed together in one of the cabins up there.” Letter to author dated 1/20/04
 Former agent Vincent Mroz told the author that Shipman was “in his 40’s or early 50’s.” Author’s interview with Mroz, 2/7/04
 
What is even more amazing about Shipman’s death is the fact that, out of the literally thousands of agents who have come and gone since the 19th century, as mentioned above, only 34 are listed By comparison, the sister agency ATF’s list dwarfs the Secret Service’s. In addition, it was reported: “In 1973, agent Jim Connally, who’d had a drinking problem, took his own life.” [Rush (Venker), page 216]. Agent Jim Kalafatis said: “We had two [unnamed] agents die within a month, of sudden heart attacks.” [“The Secret Service,” page 264] Donald Robinson died 3/5/83, while George LaBarge died 4/5/83. In addition, a spokesman for the agency stated: “As of 2003, we have lost 34 employees as a result of on-duty incidents.” See:
http://www.secretservice.gov/kids_faq.shtml

, including the 5 agents who died tragically in the 4/19/95 Oklahoma City bombing, Leslie Coffelt (the Uniformed Division officer who died on 11/1/50), 5 others who died in the 1990’s, 7 who died in the 1980’s, 2 who died in the 1970’s (inc. J. Clifford Dietrich, who died in a helicopter crash on 5/26/73), 1 other who died in the 1960’s (Thomas Wooge Wooge is pictured on pages 64, 67, & 70 from the AFAUSSS book from 1991
, on 10/17/68) The AFAUSS (new) website had this information: “Agent Thomas K. Wooge - October 17, 1968: Died of a heart attack while protecting a Presidential candidate in Rochester, New York.”
http://www.oldstar.org/In_Memoriam.html

, 1 who died in the 1940’s (11/8/40, to be exact), 3 who died in the 1930’s, 2 who passed away in the 1920’s, and 2  who died in the 1900’s. That’s a very small, sad grouping to be in, indeed. “High Interest Books: Secret Service,” a 48-page book for young people written by Mark Beyer in 2003 (Children’s Press, a Division of Scholastic Incorporated), states on page 33: “Over thirty people have died while working as Secret Service agents.”
 (Interestingly, advance man Marty Underwood told author Harry Livingstone-- "There were a couple of suicides in the thing, with the Secret Service and everything..." Livingstone: "Do you remember who committed suicide?" Underwood: "I don't remember. I think there were a couple..." [Underwood is then cut off by Livingstone] “High Treason 2,” page 439
 Also, an unnamed agent took his own life "in the late Sixties, in Washington, with his own weapon. There were signs he was beginning to buckle," as former agent Chuck Rochner explained to fellow former agent Marty Venker. "Confessions of an Ex-Secret Service Agent," pp.216-217
 Former agent Darwin Horn wrote: “I cannot recall the name of the SA who killed himself in the late 60's. I seem to recall something of that nature occurring though.” E-mail to author dated 3/2/04
)

Conclusion-One wonders what would have happened in Dallas if Shipman, not Greer, was behind the wheel of President Kennedy’s limousine during the shooting…a very convenient death, indeed. A picture of Agent Shipman driving JFK’s car (alongside ASAIC Floyd Boring) can be found on page 33 of the magazine “One Dozen Red Roses: The Life Story of Jacqueline Kennedy” (Washington, D.C.: Tatler Publishing Co., 1964) [kindly identified by former agent Win Lawson for the author on 2/17/04]
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More troubling are the revelations Tim McIntyre and three of his Secret Service colleagues shared with author Seymour Hersh in 1997 For Hersh’s book “The Dark Side of Camelot” (Boston: Little Brown, 1997).
---and, soon after, on ABC television “Dangerous World: The Kennedy Years,” 12/4/97, ABC, hosted by Peter Jennings. Former CBS newsman Marvin Kalb writes on page four of his book “One Scandalous Story” about an incident which occurred in September 1963 in which he stumbled upon the Secret Service escorting “a woman with stunningly attractive legs” up a private elevator in New York’s Carlyle Hotel where President Kennedy was staying. The panicked Secret Service knocked Kalb flat on the floor to prevent him from getting a good look at the woman! NY Times reporter R.W. Apple also related to Kalb that he saw a beautiful young woman escorted into JFK’s hotel suite at the Carlyle in 1963.
---concerning JFK’s private life (and, indirectly, Emory Roberts)…but not for the reason the reader might think: a disturbing and alarming mindset was demonstrated by these men concerning the president they were sworn to protect. As McIntyre put it: "His shift supervisor, the highly respected Emory Roberts, took him aside and warned...that 'you're going to see  a lot of shit around here. Stuff with the President. Just forget about it. Keep it to yourself. Don't even talk to your wife'...Roberts was nervous about it. Emory would say, McIntyre recalled with a laugh, 'How in the hell do you know what's going on? He could be hurt in there. What if one bites him' in a sensitive area? Roberts 'talked about it a lot', McIntyre said. 'Bites'... In McIntyre's view, a public scandal about Kennedy's incessant womanizing was inevitable. 'It would have had to come out in the next year or so. In the campaign, maybe'. McIntyre said he and some of his colleagues...felt abused by their service on behalf of President Kennedy...McIntyre said he eventually realized that he had compromised his law enforcement beliefs to the point where he wondered whether it was 'time to get out of there. I was disappointed by what I saw' [emphasis added].” McIntyre repeated the Roberts’ story on ABC (without naming Emory), with this comment included: “Prostitution-that’s illegal. A procurement is illegal. And if you have a procurer with prostitutes paraded in front of you, then, as a sworn law enforcement officer, you’re asking yourself, ‘well, what do they think of us’?” McIntyre felt this way after having only spent a VERY brief time with JFK before the assassination: he joined the WHD in the fall of 1963 Hersh, pages 240-241.
 (fellow former agent Gerald Blaine confirmed to the author on 6/10/05 that McIntyre was indeed “brand new” and lacked experience)! In addition, these feelings of anger and impotence-- especially by Roberts and McIntyre—loom large in the context of the actions and inactions of the Secret Service on 11/22/63. Soon after the airing of the aforementioned television program, Clinton Secret Service Director Lewis C. Merletti wrote a letter to 3,200 current and 500 former agents reminding them not to talk about "any aspect of the personal lives of our protectees." He further reminded the agents to recall their commission book oath, "to be worthy of trust and confidence." Merletti said this "confidence ... should continue forever." Wire service story picked up by many newspapers and media outlets, an example of which was “The Chattanooga Times” in an article written by Sandra Sobieraj on 12/18/97.
 After all, this is the Secret Service’s motto: Worthy of Trust and Confidence. “Extreme Careers-Secret Service Agents: Life Protecting the President” by David Seidman (New York: The Rosen Publishing Group, Inc., 2003), pages 9 and 55. See also the 2004 National Geographic documentary “Inside The U.S. Secret Service”
 In fact, the Former Secret Service agent’s association censured all four of the agents who spoke to Hersh for speaking about President Kennedy’s private life. “The Arrogance of Power” by Anthony Summers (Penguin: reissue edition), page 511.
 For his part, fellow former agent J. Frank Yeager, also a Texas trip veteran, wrote: “I cannot speak for McIntyre. I personally don’t believe that the President’s personal life should be public information.” Letter to author dated 1/24/04
 Former agent Walt Coughlin weighed in on the situation: “It was their rite [sic] to say it but I wish they had not. I would never say anything bad (of a personal nature) against a protectee. We are there by law, not as a guest!” E-mail to author dated 2/22/04
 Coughlin later wrote the author: “[Tony] Sherman and [Larry] Newman got crossways with AFAUSSS for "talking about personal incidents" of JFK [.] Also Joe Paolella and Tim MacIntyre.” E-mail to author dated 4/27/05


An unnamed agent of the era spoke to author Philip Melanson on 1/9/2002 and stated that, while he conceded that President Kennedy was a womanizer, “it was not on the sordid scale of the four agents’ claims…The retired agent also contests the Hersh agents’ claims that Kennedy tarnished the office, and offers: “Kennedy had the most respect for the office of any president I have seen”…the agent is questioning the accuracy, scale, and the sheer venom, in his opinion, of the four accounts…He adds angrily, “I’ve never heard any agent talk about a president that way.” “The Secret Service: The Hidden History of an Enigmatic Agency” by Philip H. Melanson with Peter F. Stevens, 2003, pages 309-310.
 Needless to say, this author agrees with this former agent’s account to Melanson. So, if these stories have been exaggerated (and even if they haven’t), WHY all the ire? If McIntyre and, by extension, Roberts felt this way before Dallas, and there’s every reason to believe they in fact did, the implications for their subsequent actions---or lack thereof---are frightening. At least the other three agents---Joseph Paolella, Tony Sherman, and Larry Newman---were not on Kennedy’s detail on the Texas trip, although that’s certainly no excuse for their ill feelings. As Agent Marty Venker wrote: “Goddamn, I was protecting these guys. Once you got your feeling involved, it made it that much harder to step in front of a bullet. You might think, at the last minute, 'How do I feel about this guy?' I'd just as soon not know what he stood for." Rush (Venker), page 59
 Agent Dennis McCarthy reflected: " They [Secret Service] are around politicians, often some of the most powerful ones in the world, much of the time and frequently see these men and women at their worst as well as at their best." "Protecting the President,” page 31.
 Agent Ron Williams wrote: “[Regarding President Bill Clinton] The primary reason I retired was because I had become disenchanted with the egotistical arrogance of the Clinton staff and because I saw character flaws in Clinton that I had not seen in the five past presidents I had protected since 1970. His attention to image and style but lack of substance and character was evident in private. He was the ultimate con man… I find myself amazed that a majority of the American people still are buying this con man… My intuition in 1992 was right. Bill Clinton lacks substance and character. I just wish the American people felt values, substance, and character were important.” Orange County Register, 10/31/96.”I retired from the United States Secret Service as the Agent in charge of protection for the Los Angeles area immediately after Clinton was elected president in 1992.”

How similar were these other agents’ feelings about JFK to those of their colleague McIntyre (and presumably, by extension, Roberts)? Very---Tony Sherman, who spent two years at the White House with JFK: "I wanted out...I didn't want a part of it...I got mad...I got angry at any president who doesn't treat the White House like I think he should..." Hersh, pages 241-243.
  Sherman added: "Seventy to eighty percent of the agents thought it was nuts… Some of us were brought up the right way. Our mothers and fathers didn't do it. We lived in another world. Suddenly, I'm Joe Agent here. I'm looking at the president of the United States and telling myself, 'This is the White House and we protect the White House.'" “The Atlantic Online,” January 1998.
 On the ABC special, Sherman related a tale of JFK and prostitutes that occurred during the President’s trip to Honolulu, Hawaii, in June of 1963 (incidentally, two clips are shown of this trip, depicting agents running with the limousine on all four corners of the limousine during the motorcade, motorcycles beside JFK, and SAIC Behn on the trip, among other things). Sherman said: “The Honolulu episode made me angry. It did make me angry…I’m not a holier-than-thou guy…but he shouldn’t be doing this in public.” The agent also added that this debauchery “continued constantly” and was “a regular thing.” Larry Newman: " It [JFK's behavior] caused a lot of morale problems with the Secret Service...you felt impotent and you couldn't do your job. It was frustrating...[emphasis added]" Hersh, page 230
 On the ABC special, Newman mentioned JFK’s sexual trysts with White House secretaries who were known by the nicknames of “Fiddle” and “Faddle.” The agent also said that this facet of JFK made you not want to associate with the man in any way. Joseph Paolella: " [He] acknowledged that the Secret Service's socializing intensified each year of the Kennedy administration, to a point where, by late 1963, a few members of the presidential detail were regularly remaining in bars until the early morning hours [emphasis added]." Hersh, page 244
  This is corroborated by what Abraham Bolden told the author, and it also is best exemplified by the drinking incident of 11/21-11/22/63. Agent Tony Sherman also told author Edward Klein: “His womanizing was so routine and common…that we slipped into the nefarious duty of protecting Kennedy from his wife by alerting him is she was returning to the White House unexpectedly…Some agents felt that if the President could get away with this kind of stuff, so could they…Drinking, partying, and sex became part of traveling with the President” “The Kennedy Curse: Why Tragedy Has Haunted America's First Family for 150 Years” by Edward Klein (New York: St. Martin’s Press, 2003), pages 171 and 173
 Agent Larry Newman wasn’t finished, either---he spoke at even greater length to author Barbara Leaming about JFK’s womanizing several years later. "Mrs. Kennedy: The Missing History of the Kennedy Years" by Barbara Leaming (Free Press, 2002). See especially pages 61-63, 142, 167, 204, and 252-253 Newman also spoke to author Edward Klein: “Just Jackie: Her Private Years” by Edward Klein (Ballantine Books, 1999), page 374, and is acknowledged for his help in “The Fourth Perimeter” by Tim Green (Warner Books, 2003)
 (Author Palamara did contact Newman, Sherman, Paolella, and McIntyre but did not discuss JFK’s womanizing at any length.) Incredulously, Floyd Boring stated: “I can’t recall---and I was there the entire time during the president’s administration and prior to the president’s administration---and I know I can never recall at any time the president meeting with any girl. Everything I’ve ever seen the man do was with a moral attitude…Never seen the girl [Judith Campbell Exner]. Never heard her name until I read it in the paper…wouldn’t know her [Mary Pinchot Meyer]…I never at any time had ever seen the president with Frank Sinatra…at no time was Frank Sinatra at the President’s house (!)” Boring’s JFK Library oral history, 2/25/76, released 1998.  For a picture of Agent Boring right in front of  to Marilyn Monroe, see page 217 of Carl Sferrazza Anthony’s “The Kennedy W hite House” (New York: Touchstone, 2001). To be fair, just with regard to Campbell and Meyers, SAIC Behn ALSO echoed the same lack of knowledge as Boring [JFK Library oral history, 2/24/76]. See also “The Arrogance of Power” by Anthony Summers (Penguin: reissue edition), page 511
 Regarding Agent Boring, former agent Larry Newman told the author, “He’s been a proponent that JFK wasn’t a womanizer.” Author’s interview with Newman, 2/7/04
 Former ASAIC of the Los Angeles office Darwin David Horn, Sr. wrote the author: “Never saw Marilyn Monroe...ever.” E-mail to author dated 1/30/04
 (Horn later wrote: “Never saw Marilyn Monroe with him but wouldn't tell you if I had.” E-mail to author dated 2/28/04
) Horn also wrote: “Never saw JFK and Sinatra together.” E-mail to author dated 2/26/04
 Finally, former Chief James Rowley stated to the JFK Library in 1976: “I never saw or heard anything [regarding allegations of women and JFK]...I had never heard or saw anything that would indicate any truth to it, because certainly any agent on the detail that saw anything like that naturally would report it [!] But I hadn't received...[ellipsis in text]...This was all a surprise to me when I read these so-called stories." James J. Rowley Oral History, JFK Library, 3/29/76

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